[07:48] <white0rchid> A quick question here too - an SP reimbursement is happening I assume?
[07:48] <white0rchid> For losing one of the five subs
[07:49] <white0rchid> If so, could I get some clarification on that (unless I missed it). How are you dealing with the amalgamation of engineering/electronics. Will you pick the highest level skill and push that into the new Core skill and reimburse the other?
[07:49] <white0rchid> eg. I have engineering 4 and electronics 3, I end up with core 4 and get reimbursed 3 levels of electronics
[09:13] <eustise> i'd rather they just refund all the sp in the subsystems and put them all at 0
[09:13] <eustise> given some entire role switches
[09:37] <mawderator> @white0rchid it's been confirmed that SP will be reimbursed for the subsystem
[09:38] <white0rchid> Yes but which one :stuck_out_tongue:
[09:38] <white0rchid> 2 subs (elec/eng) are going to one (core)
[09:38] <white0rchid> so which one will be reimbursed
[09:48] <titus.tallang> i'd argue we should keep the higher one and reimburse the lower one
[09:48] <titus.tallang> (but that's, obviously, just opinion)
[09:51] <white0rchid> That was my initial line of thought yeah
[10:01] <eustise> cloak/probing is moving to a whole other sub, not that we're talking a lot of SP but maybe there's people out there with defensive 3 and electronics 5, and they'd want to retain their L5 probing bonus
[10:05] <eustise> reimbursing all systems may be more sp than they want to put out, what, 5 mil or so for all the subs to 5?
[15:05] <asher_elias> my main concerns with the current t3 changes: Web lokis still way too strong, perhaps even stronger. tanky webs warp the meta, mainline DPS being tanky is good but support ships should have vulnerabilities. Fleet lokis always overheat webs anyway so moving a bonus into heat really isn't a big change. My next concern is for logi subs. Having fought snuff's logi legions many times I can tell you how cancerous that kind of comp is, it's an incredibly binary fight, you can either break the 400k EHP slaved legions or you go home, because there's really very little you can do otherwise. I'm concerned that if we make logi t3s too strong it will encourage too much use of them which makes for un-engaging boring fights.
[15:06] <eustise> we haven't seen numbers, but between EHP changes and sig changes, i really am expecting t3c's to be a lot more fragile than they currently are.
[16:36] <rowells> It's all gonna be about those fittings
[16:38] <rowells> And depending on base stats, having the PG and ECCM bonuses on different modules in the same place should offer some reprieve as well
[20:19] <progodlegend> Sup guys. Sorry I'm late getting in I had family stuff for memorial weekend and then I had to be in Dallas all during the week. Anyway I think mostly caught up now and I generally like what y'all have done so far. I have a few comments for some things but I'll wait til Monday
[21:49] <caprisunkraftfoods> tbh without stats I feel like discussing balance is daft
[21:49] <caprisunkraftfoods> like we can look at priorities, but actual balance seems impossible
[21:50] <caprisunkraftfoods> "oh this ship has 8 slots", but what if it doesn't have the CPU to rack them all out with tank/damage
[21:50] <caprisunkraftfoods> like the proteus atm needs to sacrifice somewhere on tank for CPU