[01:44] <fintarue> A huge portion of the fighting I've ever done often takes place outside of plexes
[01:45] <fintarue> Honestly, it's reasonable to me that they can't get in just for the fact t3 cruisers can't get in to mediums
[01:53] <sardcaid> T3 cruisers are also in a terrible place balance wise
[01:54] <fintarue> Well, besides my point
[01:54] <sardcaid> is it though?
[01:54] <sardcaid> we're talking about molding what these ships, T3Ds currently are
[01:54] <sardcaid> who's to say that the changes that come from this group mold T3Ds into something that isn't oppressive for the PvP meta that exists in small outposts?
[01:55] <sardcaid> it's an important ecology to consider in the game, and saying that a very popular and fun ship can no longer participate inside them sucks
[02:11] <fintarue> How much do you feel the changes we've talked about would push towards that?
[02:34] <sardcaid> Really depends on what's picked up and what's not
[02:34] <sardcaid> I don't think CCP is going to be terribly aggressive with T3D balancing
[02:34] <sardcaid> With that in mind T3D can stay away from the innards of a small outpost
[02:35] <sardcaid> But if we have aggressive nerfing of the more powerful mode bonuses, I can see T3D being on the same level in many regards with T2D
[02:36] <sardcaid> 'Aggressive' meaning doing away with the 33 and 66 percent themes, nerfing and restructuring multiple modes, moving part of damage bonus to sharpshooter
[04:35] <fintarue> Well, I think Fozzie was already saying they were looking to move some of the damage to sharp. I think the biggest part of the t3d that would need hit in order to make them reasonable for small outposts would be the tank
[04:35] <fintarue> Specially the svipul
[04:35] <fintarue> It'd hafta be hit huge
[05:26] <suitonia> Has this chat been made public yet?
[05:26] <suitonia> I guess Fozzie is in Vegas
[05:27] <suitonia> So maybe after
[05:44] <fintarue> Not yet
[06:27] <sardcaid> Last I heard fozzie will be looking at this post vegas
[08:50] <selto_black> Two turrets...? That would need a hell of a bonus though. it would also free up some cargo space on their already massive cargo.
[08:56] <fintarue> What's two turrets?
[11:21] <suitonia> Fozzie isn't in vegas apparently
[11:21] <suitonia> I was wrong
[11:21] <suitonia> hes in the mittani vegas twitch stream
[11:21] <suitonia> I'm not sure what he means by two turrets, I would guess hes suggesting moving the svipul to two turrets and therefore limiting grid further for ACs with reduced grid
[11:22] <suitonia> but going down to 2 turrets doesn't sound good to me
[11:22] <suitonia> despite the current issues with Arty/AC fitting desparity
[11:22] <gorski_car> it feels very strange as well
[11:22] <gorski_car> 2 guns feels weak even if 1000% dmg bonus
[11:55] <selto_black> yes
[11:55] <selto_black> that is what i was sugessting
[12:13] <sardcaid> There's nothing stopping CCP from rebalancing T3D into something that is on power level of T2D
[12:14] <sardcaid> I don't think that would ever happen though